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DIMEV 3645
IMEV 2264
NIMEV 2264
My noble sons and eke my lords dear
Scogan’s ‘Moral Balade’ — twenty-one 8-line stanzas
Note: Cf. 5277.
Title(s): ‘Moral Balade’
Subjects: old age; precepts; advice, moral; prologues
Versification: — eight-line — ababbcbc

Manuscript Witnesses:
1.Source: Oxford, Bodleian Library Ashmole 59 (SC 6943), ff. 25-28
First Lines:
My noble sonnes and eke my lordes dere
I your fader called vnworþely
Sende vn to yowe þis balade folowing here
Writen of myne owen hande ful rudely…
Last Lines:
…God you conferme in vertuous goodnesse
So þat thorughe necgligence yee no thing leese
Note: With the insertion between stanzas 13 and 14 of Chaucer’s ‘Gentilesse’ — see 3348.
Attributed Title: Here foloweþe nexst a moral balade to my lord þe Prince to my lord of Clarence to my lord of Bedford and to my lorde of Gloucestre by Henry Scogan at a souper of feorþe merchande in þe vyntre in londoun at þe hous of Lowys Johan (f. 25)
Furnivall, Frederick James, ed. A Parallel-Text Edition of Chaucer’s Minor Poems. 3 vols. Chaucer Society 1st. ser. 21, 57, 58. London: Trübner, n.d. repr. New York and London: Johnson, 1967.
2.Source: Cambridge UK, Cambridge University Library Ff.4.9, ff. 85-86
First Lines:
…I Complayne me sore whan I remembre me
The sodayn age þat vppon me is falle…
Last Lines:
…To yeve vs myght to ben vertuous
And of þis þinge herkyn houw my mayster seyd
Note: Stanzas 2-13 only.
3.Source: London, British Library Harley 2251, ff. 153v-156
First Lines:
My noble sones and eke my lordis dere
I yowre fader vnworthily…
Last Lines:
…God conferme yow in vertuous goodenesse
So that thurgh necligence ye nothyng lese
Note: A second copy of stanzas 2, 3, at f. 178v.
Attributed Title: Querela senis (f. 153v); Explicit Querela senis (f. 156)
4.Source: London, British Library Harley 2251, f. 178v
First Lines:
I compleyne sore whan I remembe me
The sodayn Age that is vpon me falle…
Last Lines:
…Thow lorde of Rest and parfite vnite
Put fro me vices and kepe my soule heele
Note: stanzas 2, 3, only, conflated with Cato Major (1418).
5.Source: London, British Library Harley 367, f. 86v2
First Lines:
Mi noble sonns and eke my lords dere
I yowr fathar called vnworthyly…
Last Lines:
…that myne vnkonunge ye take beningly
for gods sake and harken what I saye
Note: Stanza 1 only. Written by the hand of John Stow; followed at end of last line by ‘& setra . they say it is in Chawcer’ by scribe’s, John Stow’s hand.
Attributed Title: Here folowed a morall ballad to the princes the duke of Clarens the duke of bedford the duke of wincestar the kyngs sonns by harry scogan at a [f or s] ey as amonge the marchaunts in the vintry at london in the howse of lewys jhon bigininge thus (by scribe, John Stow, f. 86v)

Print Witnesses:
1.Source: STC 5091. Chaucer, Geoffrey, The Temple of Bras, or Assembly or Parliament of Fowls, Caxton, 1477? , sigs. c1v-c5v
First Lines:
My noble sones and also my lordes deer
I your fader called vnworthely
Sende vnto you this lytyl tretyse here
Wreton with my hand ful rudely…
Last Lines:
…God conforme you in vertuous goodnes
So that thurgh necligence no thing ye lese
Note: CUL shelfmark, Inc. 5. J. 1. 1. (3485).
Attributed Title: Here next foloweth a tretyse whiche John Skogan Sente vnto lordes and gentilmen of the kynges hows exortyng them to lose no tyme in theyr yougthe but to vse vertues (sig. c.1); Thus endeth the traytye wiche John Skogan sent to the lordes and estates of the kynges hous (sig. c.5v)
2.Source: Geoffrey Chaucer, Workes, Thynne, 1532 , ff. 380ra-380va
First Lines:
My noble sonnes and eke my lordes dere
I your father called vnworthely…
Last Lines:
…Foloweth him in vertue with ful besynesse
And of this thing herke how my mayster seyde
Note: Prologue to ‘Gentelness’? 13 x 8, ababbcbc, followed immediately by ‘Gentleness’ without heading or break.
Attributed Title: Scogan vnto the lordes and gentylmen of the kynges house (f. 380ra)
Skeat, Walter William, ed. The Complete Works of Geoffrey Chaucer. 7 vols. Oxford: Clarendon, 1894-7: 7.237-44.
3.Source: STC 5075. Chaucer, Geoffrey, The workes of Geffrey Chaucer, newlie printed, with diuers addicions, whiche were neuer in print before: with the siege and destruccion of the worthy citee of Thebes, compiled by Ihon Lidgate, Monke of Berie. As in the table more plainly doeth appere, [Imprinted at London: By Ihon Kyngston, for Ihon Wight, dwellyng in Poules Churchyarde], 1561
4.Source: STC 5077. Chaucer, Geoffrey, Workes, Speght, 1598
Urry, John, ed. The Works of Geoffrey Chaucer. London: B. Lintot, 1721: 546.
Bell, John, ed. The Poetical Works of Geoffrey Chaucer. 14 vols. in 7. The Poets of Great Britain. Edinburgh, 1782; repr. London: Cadell and Davies, 1807: 13.159.
Chalmers, Alexander, ed. The Works of the English Poets from Chaucer to Cowper. London, 1810; repr. New York: Greenwood, 1969: 1.552.