The Digital Index of Middle English Verse
DIMEV 3066
IMEV 1869
NIMEV 1869
Lewd men be not lered in lore / As clerks been in holy writ
Dialogue between St. Bernard and the Virgin Mary concerning the Passion — in 8-line stanzas (abababab)
Note: For other versions see 1275 and 5020.
Subjects: dialogues; Virgin Mary, as speaker in debate; Bernard of Clairveaux, saint; Passion
Versification: — eight-line — abababab

Manuscript Witnesses:
1.Source: Oxford, Bodleian Library Laud misc. 463 (SC 1596), ff. 160ra-164rb
First Lines:
LEwede men þat beoþ not lent in lore
As clerkes beoþ in holy writ
þei men reden hem before
It wile not wonen in here wit…
Last Lines:
…& saue vs fro þe feond feloun
& bring oure soules into heuen
Attributed Title: Meditacio beati Bernardi super passione domini nostri Ihesu cristi (f. 159v)
2.Source: Oxford, Bodleian Library Eng. poet. a.1 (SC 3938) [Vernon MS], ff. 287rc2-288vc
First Lines:
Lewed men be not lered in lore
As Clerkes ben in holi writ…
Last Lines:
…Whon we schul dye and henne go
Schilde vs from þe pyne of helle. Amen
Attributed Title: a gret lamentacion be twene vr ladi & seint Bernard (see 1978)
Doyle, I. A., ed. The Vernon Manuscript. A Facsimile of Bodleian Library, Oxford, MS Eng. poet.a.1, with an introduction by A. I. Doyle. Cambridge: D. S. Brewer, 1987.
Scase, Wendy, and Nick Kennedy, eds. A facsimile edition of the Vernon manuscript: Oxford, Bodleian Library, MS. Eng. Poet. A. 1. Oxford: The Bodleian Library, 2011.
Kribel, G. “Studien zu Richard Rolle de Hampole.” Englische Studien 8 (1885): 67-114: 85.
Horstmann, Carl, ed. The Minor Poems of the Vernon Manuscript, Part 1. EETS o.s. 98 (1892; repr. 1973): 298-328.
3.Source: Oxford, Bodleian Library Douce 126 (SC 21700), ff. 84v-90
First Lines:
LEwde men þat ben nat wys in lore
As clerkys ben in holy writ…
Last Lines:
…Whan we schullyn deyyn & hens go
þou schilde vs fro þe pyne of helle
Attributed Title: Here bygynnyth how bernard spekyþ to oure lefdy to wetyn of godys passyoun and of here (f. 84)
4.Source: Oxford, Trinity College 57, f. 167
Note: Ends imperfectly.
5.Source: Cambridge UK, Cambridge University Library Dd.1.1, ff. 21-29v
First Lines:
LEwid men arn not lerid in lore
as clerkis benin holy writte…
Last Lines:
…and there for to han hisi mede
þorw vertu of his passioun amen
Note: Ends imperfectly.
Attributed Title: Lamentacio sancti Bernardi de compassione beate marie virginis ex dulcissimi filij sui passione et eiusdem crudeli morte (f. 21); Explicit lamentacio sancti Bernardi de compassione beate marie virginis ex compunccione amarissima in corde de passione & morte turpissima sui dulcissimi filij domini nostri ihesu cristi (f. 29v)
Kribel, G. “Studien zu Richard Rolle de Hampole.” Englische Studien 8 (1885): 67-114: 85.
6.Source: London, British Library Addit. 11307, ff. 97v-117v
First Lines:
Lewed men beth not lered in lore
as clerkes ben in holy writ…
Last Lines:
…By twyxe vs and þi sone go
And saue vs fro þe fynd of helle. AMEN
Note: Facing transcription of each folio by a nineteenth-century writer, Joseph Haslewood (see f. 5).
Attributed Title: A Dialogue between St Bernard & the Virgin Mary (title page, f. 1, nineteenth-century hand)